One can get IIT JEE coaching via the Internet at http://askiitians.com. They also have a list of books that they recommend. Their blog has some more info and advice. They have a very nice discussion forum.
— chitta
Add comment August 24th, 2007
BJB Junior College was my awakening to a competitive and treacherous world. As students you might think that getting admission into a top engineering college is the ticket to a “great” life. Let me assure you IT IS NOT. It is but merely like a ticket to participate in a marathon race. Once you enter it, you have to reinvent yourself, prepare to take up any challenge that faces your way. My personal experience has been in reading 500 pages overnight because of the enormity of the syllabi. And then topping the exam!
You are at the cusp of change. You are among the best Orissa has to offer today. And you have been placed in an institution which has produced so many proud Oriya sons. Do not be overwhelmed by the apparent difficulty of problems and the amount of knowledge you not only have to digest and retain. Take this race in the right spirit. Do not forget that in case someone has formulated a problem, there has to be a solution. That is the easier part. Some years later, either in research or competitive jobs, you do not have that surety. If there is a problem and it definitely doesn’t have one solution, possibly no correct solution. This is where your problem solving ability and confidence will hold your spirits. The entrance examinations are merely a test of this resilience.
On a practical note, please do not ignore classes. Sometimes you might feel that you already know what the teacher is discussing. This is good. You are one step ahead. But that is not enough. You have to be at least ten steps ahead of your peers. Take it in the right spirit. Don’t comment or belittle the teacher (I have myself seen this when I was BJB). Their blessings and goodwill will stand you in great stead. Try and understand how he/she has retained such knowledge. Don’t be a simple rote learner. Be different. This is going to differentiate you from the rest of the class not only now but years later in worse circumstances.
I fondly remember my time in BJB College. I was so happy Panda Sir allowed me to address you last month. I remember the captivating discussions with Tripathy Sir in Alternative English class, Tapan Sir’s Math classes, and Manorama Madam’s physics classes. You might feel that PCM are the only subjects that you need to concentrate on. The answer to this is an emphatic NO. English as a medium of worldwide communication is EXTREMELY important for engineers and technocrats. I have faced such situations myself – when you have found something out and are not able to communicate this to anyone effectively. As I emphasized, during my interaction with you at BJB – Nobody ever gives you a second chance. You will have one opportunity to do it and do it right. They were the electronics lectures by Kamila Sir that made me choose Electrical & Electronics at BITS Pilani. My rank after the first year had enabled me to choose any discipline.
It is extremely worrying to see the number of Oriya students from premier colleges like BJB and Ravenshaw that join in. In fact, at BITS I was only one among TWO students who had made it during my batch. Of my class of 600, more than 300 had come in from AP, a hundred more from TN and the rest from a few North Indian locations. Only two from Orissa? Do we deserve it? Do you deserve it? Are we technically incompetent or come from the middle of a deep jungle. I do not think so. When I had first introduced myself to my friends, some of them knew Orissa as something which is above AP and before Calcutta. Is that all ? If you feel scared and angry, you have every reason to be. And that is more the reason, you must resolve to do well – not only in +2 Annual Examination but also in any challenge life throws at you. BITS Pilani still allows toppers from the Board to join, in addition to entrants through BITSAT.
Just concentrate on digesting whatever is on your plate – it is Physics. Chemistry and Mathematics that you have to concentrate on. Do take time to participate in community service. Strengthen the hands of the Principal through collective action and not merely be a critical bystander. Leave the “chalta hai” and “me and my exam preparation” attitude. Please respect your teachers and take advantage of their years of experience. They have been the best teachers I have met not only for their dedication but also for the depth of their experience. Do not just take notes in class. Share your experiences (problems etc) with them and find your lacunae. Also do not bunk classes for coaching centers. This gives NO DIRECT ADVANTAGE. As Chitta Sir himself has said, with the right preparation and temperament, you should go in for the Mock Tests conducted by these institutions.
Visit us seniors at http://plus2sc.orissalinks.com/ and http://www.bits360.com/forum when you have the time.
I wish you all the best of luck. Make Orissa proud of you.
– Aalap
Add comment August 20th, 2007
BJB Junior College is the premier junior college of Orissa. Earlier we listed its arts and science merit lists. In the science merit list there are about 418 students who have secured more than 90% in their class X exam. Although I have not seen Ravenshaw Junior College’s list, my guess is the situation will be almost similar (may be a little bit less) percentage wise. BJB Junior College currently has 512 seats in plus two science and Ravenshaw (after the recent seat increase) has 384 seats.
I am an alumnus of BJB (when it had 384 seats) and have close friends from Ravenshaw. Based on my experience in BJB, and my subsequent experience in IIT Kharagpur Computer Sc and University of Maryland (where I had JEE number 1 of a year in one of my classes) I can say that at least 200 of BJB Jr plus two science students and 150 of Ravenshaw Jr plus two science students have the ability to make it to an IIT and do well in them.
Yet, as I am told, these days annually only about 10-12 fresh plus two pass outs from BJB Jr make it to IITs and may be another 10-12 older pass outs also make it. The result for Ravenshaw Jr is similar. Considering the quality of students that get into BJB Jr and Ravenshaw Jr, this result is dismal and is a shame.
One should just compare how similar colleges from others states do. Many of them send more than 100 students to IITs. An example is Little Flower Junior College of Hyderabad. (It was true in my time and as Partyusa confirms, it was true in his time too.)
Now, it is not the case that Orissa students (as aptly represented by BJB and Ravenshaw) are inferior than students from other states. They are as good, and often they do better (than what their incoming ranks would suggest) once they get in to a national institute.
So why is it that their result in the IIT entrance exam is so dismal!
From my analysis, experience and talking to other friends following are some of my thoughts on this.
1. Lack of Confidence; not believing in oneself: Many students hear about the performance of the previous year and when they find out that only 10-12 from their college made it to IITs, they figure that they won’t be among the top 10-12 in their batch and hence give up before starting. Many others start preparing for IIT but because of lack of confidence, give up mid way.
2. Negative advice: I have heard that certain teachers/seniors/parents/guardians give negative advice. They say that IIT is too hard and if one focuses so much on the IIT preparation then he/she may do badly in other exams and as a result, neither will he/she get IIT, nor will he/she get into the easier options through AIEEE and Orissa JEE.
3. Over dependence on low quality tuitions: Many students take multiple tutions and coaching classes that leaves them little time to study on their own. They depend on their tuition master’s notes rather than reading the books themselves.
4. Satisfied with easier alternatives: Some students set a lower goal for themselves. They notice that graduates from various private colleges in and around Bhubaneswar get well-paying jobs in recognized companies and decide why work hard to prepare for IIT.
Some basic advice to plus 2 students regarding getting into IITs
1. Confidence issues and countering the negative advice: The students who get into BJB jr and Ravenshaw jr colleges with more than or close to 90% marks in their Class X need not doubt their abilities. They will be successful in no matter what they do, provided they put their mind to it. Now, not every one needs to aim or go to IITs. But whatever field they decide for their career they should aim for the best college/institute in that field. So if Engineering is their choice then IITs and BITS should be in the top of their list and if science and maths is their interest then they should aim for NISER and IISERs. If one prepares for these entrance exams in a proper way then even if they are not successful for IIT/BITS/NISER/IISER they will do well in AIEEE, Orissa JEE and Plus 2 examination. The students that get into BJB jr and Ravenshaw jr are among the top 1000 students of Orissa. So there is no reason they should not get within the top 1000 of Orissa JEE and get into a very good local engineering college. With that excellent fall back option, BJB jr and Ravenshaw jr plus two science students interested in engineering should prepare for IIT with their full heart, and without any fear, but in a proper way.
2. A proper way for preparing for IIT and other entrance exams: First, only reading notes dictated by ones tuition master is the worst way for preparing for entrance exams. When a tuition master dictates notes, at best what it implies is that he/she has read the material from one or more places, hopefully understood it, and has made a summary of it. When someone else (a student taking tuition) just reads those notes he/she does not develop the same level of understanding as he/she would have developed if he/she had read the original material in the books himself/herself. Similarly, by only reading examples of solved problems (or listening to a tuition master explaining a solved problem) one does not develop the skill to solve problems. Unfortunately, many plus two students take multiple tuitions where their tuition masters dictate notes, and go through solved examples; they do not have time or energy left to read the text book and develop their own understanding and solve problems on their own to develop the problem solving skill. Now that we have discussed what is the wrong way; let us discuss the right or proper way.
* One must read one of the text books and develop their own understanding of a topic. It is ok to ask a teacher, including a tuition master, to clarify certain aspects that the student could not understand on his/her own. One may (does not have to) make their own notes based on their reading and understanding for quick revisions of the material later.
* For each topic, one must solve many problems on their own. Some of the problems may not be solvable in one sitting. Sometimes one may have to think about the problem, and may be go to sleep; may be in their subconscious they will get some insight of how to solve the problems. In other words, for any topic, pick one source (say X) that has a few solved problems and several problems to be solved (but with final answers). One should then read the material in the book, then read the material in X, then read the solved examples in X, and then solve the exercise problems in X on their own. They should not look at another source Y which may have solved some of the exercise problems in X. One needs to do their best, and if necessary spend 2-3 days thinking about the exercise problems in X that they could not immediately solve. Only after one does this kind of routine with respect to a topic and a source X, and has time, one may take a stab at another source Y. After working with source X, when working with source Y, one should try to not read all the solved examples of Y, but read a few of them and do the solved example problems (without looking at the solution) as well as the exercise problems on their own. However, in general, most students won’t have time to work with more than one source.
* In summary, one must read a book to understand the material (and make their own notes if they desire so) and pick one source (may be the study material of a postal coaching class, or a preparing for IIT book, etc.), and solve all its exercise problem on their own.
Now how does the above fit in with classes at your Junior College and the tuition that many student seem to be taking. I worry that there is not enough hours in a day for most people to take multiple tuitions, attend classes at BJB/Ravenshaw and then prepare in a proper way as I suggest above. So one has to make decisions.
I personally attended my classes at BJB, and prepared in the above way with my source being study material of a postal coaching class. I never took tuition in my life, and never attended a face-to-face coaching class.
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Many coaching classes do simulated tests. Taking simulated tests are useful, but only if you have prepared in the proper way described above. Otherwise, they are not much useful as you would not have developed the understanding and problem solving skills necessary to answer hard question in an exam.
This is all for now. In my next write up I will discuss some studying as well as test taking strategies. But let me sum up the main thoughts in the above write up.
— Chitta
Add comment August 13th, 2007
Welcome to this forum for plus 2 science students of Orissa. The main writers of this forum will be people who have gone through the plus two science program in Orissa and have been successful in various spheres of life. They will comment and advice on how to be successful in the various examinations one takes after plus 2 science. They will take questions from plus two students and as time permits answer them.
The goal of this forum is to dramatically impact the success rates of Orissa plus 2 science students in national entrance exams such as IIT JEE, BITS AT, PMT etc.
–Chitta
Add comment August 12th, 2007
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